Churubusco Snyder Grain

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Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by cjberndt » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:52 pm

The first photo shows eastbound PRR 2-8-0 #1648 alongside Snyder Grain in Churubusco in 1947. The 1957 photo was looking west from Main St. / US-33. In the c.1975 photo, taken 2 years after abandonment of the line through Busco, dirt Mulberry St. crosses left-right in front of the granary.

The 2016 photo was taken looking across Mulberry. The house at left is sitting on the Snyder Grain site, and the low wall of stones in the grass of the house at right is made up of foundation stones from Snyder. The driveway was the Eel River RR mainline.

Churubusco was a busy town in the early-1960s, with Case tractor loading 6 flatcars daily, plus Standard Oil, Snyder Grain and Red-E-Mix. Case's ramp was between Main and Mulberry, and the rest was west of Mulberry.

It ended rather abruptly with the last train being an outbound empty hopper in Aug. 1968. Columbia City-Churubusco had already been abandoned in 1961. LaOtto-Churubusco was abandoned in 1973 and the track was removed 1973-1975.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by Hotbox » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:24 pm

Columbia City-Churubusco had already been abandoned in 1961
The pictures are all great! I was wondering if you have any further details regarding the abandonment of the Columbia City/Churubusco segment?
I've found an application dated Jan. 25, 1961 and that's about it.

I believe that the Auburn/Butler segment was embargoed then ultimately abandoned in 1953. So I guess that means the GR&I connection was the only link out of Churubusco after 1961?

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by cjberndt » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:04 pm

Columbia City-Churubusco was abandoned in 1961, 7.81 miles, MP 57.19-65.0, from .10-mile east of present-day US-30 at Columbia City, to .40-mile west of CR-850E at Churubusco. It was part of PRR subsidiary Philadelphia, Baltimore & Washington Railroad.

I don’t know why the endpoints were out in nowhere. Relocation and widening of US-30 was being designed in 1961, and an agreement was ratified Aug. 18, 1961 between PB&W and the State of Indiana for a grade crossing .5-mile east of Columbia City, where US-30 is now located. I suspect the crossing wasn’t built and the track to Churubusco was abandoned instead. Nothing was served in that section.

Cabooses and possibly other cars were stored west of US-30 and cannibalized until 1964 or later. Richard Simons’ photo of PRR agent Eugene Desper on one of the cabooses was taken in 1963 or 1964 for Simons’ NRHS article about the Eel River RR.

From 1961 to 1968, Churubusco was served from LaOtto, but the track was officially still open to Auburn Jct. The track from Auburn Jct. to LaOtto was officially out of service by 1973, 5 years after all service Auburn Jct.-Churubusco ended.

Auburn Jct. to Churubusco was abandoned in two separate petitions in 1973, except a segment at LaOtto that was probably used for car storage and turning locomotives on the Y-track. I never found anything about that segment’s abandonment, and suspect it was never officially abandoned.

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Post by Steve Bryan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:55 pm

The crossing in new 30 was built. I distinctly remember crossing it as a child with railroad cars being stored east/north of the crossing. It was only protected with crossbucks.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by Hotbox » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:55 pm

cjberndt wrote:
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I don’t know why the endpoints were out in nowhere. Relocation and widening of US-30 was being designed in 1961, and an agreement was ratified Aug. 18, 1961 between PB&W and the State of Indiana for a grade crossing .5-mile east of Columbia City, where US-30 is now located. I suspect the crossing wasn’t built and the track to Churubusco was abandoned instead. Nothing was served in that section.

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Thanks for the additional info. As another poster has mentioned, I too remember the line crossing new 30. We used to go up to Warsaw frequently to visit relatives, and I remember crossing over the line.

Oddly enough, I also believe I have a memory of having to stop for a train there, one time (that's what is sparking my curiosity here, in 1961 I would have been only 3 years old) I suppose the train in question could have been part of pulling up the tracks at a later date, I likely wouldn't have known enough to distinguish that kind of train from a conventional one.

Enjoyed the reference to CASE in Churubusco, never knew they were there, but your mention inspired me to dig deeper, learned a lot.

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Post by cjberndt » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:58 pm

The highway crossing was built and abandoned it at nearly the same time. That means PB&W (PRR) paid for the grade crossing removal?

This photo is looking north on CR-850W on the west side of Churubusco in the year that the C City-Busco track was abandoned. The stop sign is at SR-205. The NAPA store is at left today.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by cjberndt » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:01 pm

My apology. The CR-850 photo was 3 years after abandonment of C City-Busco.

I need to stop posting stuff.

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Post by rrnut282 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:39 am

Growing up, I went past the elevator quite often as it is/was only a couple of blocks away from the family doctor's office. Only recall seeing a train once or twice in all those years.
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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by Hotbox » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:52 pm

Anyone have info on when the track was physically removed?

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Post by Bob Durnell » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:54 pm

cjberndt wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:01 pm
I need to stop posting stuff.
Gosh no! Post everything you have. :D The educational banter these type of photos generate is priceless. What I have learned over the years is that one person will look at an old photo and see nothing of particular interest, and the next person to look at it will see two or three things that draws THEIR interest.
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Post by Notch 8 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:06 pm

Ditto to what Bob said !!

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Post by Wayne Gest » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Don't even think of stopping, your posts are always so informative and you almost always have pictures, too.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by Steve Bryan » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:51 pm

If I'm not mistaken, the track in the above photo ended literally just feet west of the crossing. I used to go that way to my aunt's place at Blue Lake and remember seeing the end of the rails from the crossing.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by cjberndt » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:47 pm

The attached 1957 track map shows where the track was abandoned west of Busco.

Someone asked when the track was removed. Columbia City-Churubusco was removed in or after 1961, and Churubusco-Auburn Jct. in the 1973-1976 timeframe.

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Re: Churubusco Snyder Grain

Post by Notch 8 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:00 pm

When was the last through train taken off this line ? I see 1 stick of rail still remaining that slid down the embankment of the ROW between LaOtto and Churubusco and have always wanted to see if the date on the rail was still visible. I do not know of any remaining trackage of this route, Is there any ? Neat trestle remains near South Whitley.

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