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Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Notch 8 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:33 pm

The idea of private railcar ownership was born during the 1950's in the
south of the State of Michigan, where the New York Central (NYC) still
had a network of lightly used branch lines connecting the small farming
and manufacturing towns. A group of Toledo railfans arranged to lease a
6.5 mile branch that bypassed the city of Hillsdale, nicknamed the
Bankers Cut-Off, which was not needed by the NYC. The cost of the lease
was $100 per year. The group made the line passable, and for 17 years
used the line for their ramblings, occasionally riding nearby branch
lines too. Then Penn Central, the successor to the NYC, chose not to
renew the lease and tore up the track.

I found this while looking for info on the net, anyone on list have or
know anything about the above information ? any pictures ?

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Ibflattop » Sun May 11, 2008 6:55 am

Why Doesnt someone talk with the Indiana Northeastern about a program like this? Could run the Ashley Line when the IN isnt running? Heck even talk to the Wabash Central when they arnt running. Run from Craigville to just shhort of the Diamond in Buffton. Kevin
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by CIOR » Sun May 11, 2008 9:03 am

Diamond in Bluffton Kev? Surely not. That nasty double track rumor won't come true. :lol:
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by JW » Sun May 11, 2008 9:20 am

Kevin,
There is one big problem in running on these lines unlike what went on years ago. That word is LIABILITY. Our little cars and hyrails are in the same boat as the 765 is with the NS or the other railroads.Remember IN is a business and not Cedar Point so it must be run as such first. Our group (NARCOA) has an insurance policy,paid for by all us members,that cover our legitimet excursions.We try to run on the IN once a year and we have a great two day event there. The owner and ALL his personnel are some of the greatest to our hobby.

Boy did we have fun tho before the "L" word came into vogue.

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by rrnut282 » Mon May 12, 2008 12:15 pm

Once again, crybabies and their lawyers spoil everyone else's fun :evil:

There is no diamond in Bluffton for as long as I have lived there. The ex Cloverleaf from the East is curved onto the New Castle District for about 400 yards and then splits off to the West while going through the yard.

I assume there was a diamond years ago, as the siding at Helena Chemical lines up quite nicely. There is also a strip of property showing in the Recorder's Office that connects the two locations.

Craigville to Bluffton is a short run for an excursion. It's only about 8 miles. A better run would be Bluffton to Van Buren. At least then you would get to cross the Salamonie River on a (somewhat) elevated bridge.
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by JW » Mon May 12, 2008 1:22 pm

Mike,

The first sentence in your reply was highly uncalled for. There are no crybabies involved in my post.

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Ibflattop » Mon May 12, 2008 2:17 pm

Yes Fellas,
I forgot about the Diamond in Bluffton, a long long time ago and that silly L word. Thanks JW for the help and getting me back on track. Kevin
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by rrnut282 » Mon May 12, 2008 7:07 pm

JW
If it weren't for THEM, liability would not come up in this conversation for a long time, instead of the first reply.
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by CIOR » Wed May 14, 2008 9:33 am

Mike, yes there was a diamond right there at Helena and it lined up perfect for that reason. The track bowed out and around and back to the current clover leaf alignment south, before turning back west.

In my time I only sat 1 car in on the Craigville side. It was an old flat with stick rail going toward Craigville. A Indiana HiRail guy was there to spot the car up. Never knew why we had to place it there for them, instead of like normal.
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Wayne Gest » Wed May 14, 2008 2:17 pm

Diamond at Bluffton was removed about 1983, in about October, IIRC, and Bluffton reconfigured at that time. This is about the same time Kingsland Tower was torn down, I think the same gang did all of it. Of course, the rail had already been gone a couple of years by then and the Kingsland Erie depot had already been removed, I've always been under the understanding that its on a farm somewhere in Allen County.

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Howard » Wed May 14, 2008 9:04 pm

Francis Parker's Indiana Railroad Depots lists the Erie Depot as having been moved to a private site on Zubrick Road in SW Allen County. He has no further documentation of it and I've searched and found nothing that appears to be the station, although it well be be somewhere not readily visible from the road.

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by rrnut282 » Thu May 15, 2008 1:13 pm

Part of Zubrick Road is now the GM plant. It's possible it had to be relocated again, Or GM's contractor razed it like another farm building. :cry: Hopefully, it's safe out of sight.
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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Michael Meisener » Fri May 16, 2008 12:37 pm

Does anyone have a picture of this structure or something close? I will be Delivering into GM 3 times tomorrow & I will look for it. I guess I should take my camera with me.

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Re: Motor Cars on Bankers bypass

Post by Michael Meisener » Thu May 22, 2008 6:18 pm

When I was @ GM - Roanoke Saturday. I asked the security guards about a wooden type structure and they said about a hundred yards north of the main truck gate there is an old 1 1/2 story building in the woods.

Here is the local switching GM Saturday @ X Dock
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